I've got a few specific questions for the flip clock experts

[Michael_]

I recently bought a Copal 703 which is a beautiful alarm / flip clock.
Very quiet / no ticking & looks great but i didn't knew it has a permanent light which i dont like.

I then bought a battery powered braun phase 2 which unfortunately ticks like a conventional clock.
If you have a Copal 703 that sucks. (For use as an alarm clock that is) Otherwise its great aswell.

Here are my dream flip clock requirements:

- Alarm Function
- No permanent light (Or no light at all)
- Quiet / No Ticking (Like my Copal 703)
- Battery Powered
- Strong perference for 24 hours model/version instead of am/pm
- Preferably (but not limited to) Copal
- Good looking

Basically a battery powered Copal 703 with a switch to turn on/off the lights or no lighting at all.

Models i have found that might qualify & questions:

- Copal QP-212 (Is there also a 24h version or only 12h am/pm?)
- Copal T-11
- Copal T-7 (Is there also a 24h version or only 12h am/pm?)

I'm pretty sure those all have no (permanent) lighting?

I like the styling of the QP-212 best.
I know there is also the QP-211 which is okayish looking but not great IMHO.
https://www.flipclockfans.com/forum/...l-model-qp-212

Question Regarding Different Movements, Noise & Ticking:

I noticed different flip clocks use different movements.
I furthermore noticed that even different copal models use different movements. (Tuning Fork, Quartz etc.)

When buying a Copal Flip Clock with Alarm are they ALL equally quiet no matter of the model/movement
or is there a huge difference?

For Example: Copal 703 (Idk. the movement) vs. Copal QP-212 (Quartz) vs. Copal T11 (Tuning Fork)
Are they all equally quiet or are some ticking as loud as the braun phase 2 / a conventional clock?

I hope you guys can help me figure out the best flip clock for my application.

[Michael_]

So i did way more research and bought a Citizen 8rd102. This is definitely one of, if not the greatest flip clock with alarm there is.
- Battery powered (So it works all over the world and you can easily move it without readjusting time, no strong EMF aswell)
- No permanent light
- No ticking, its silent (Except once every minute when it changes the "time plate" but its not an annoying noise)

It has a small control LED that flashes every second. (I knew that)
I just got the clock today and start using it tonight. But If that LED is annoying i will just remove it, no big deal. (Its soldered on to the PCB, i know that from pictures i found on the internet)

The only drawback is they painted the digits in yellow/greenish fluorscence paint instead of white. I think traditional white digits on black background would look even better.

Conclusion:

If you want a very quiet/non noticeably ticking flip clock with alarm feature and without permanent light look for a
Citizen, Seiko or Copal brand unit with Quartz movement. Those are usually battery powered but i think that's an advantage anyway.

The Copal 703 also has all these attributes but has a permanent light and is socket powered.
If you're handy you can modify it with a light switch as i did: https://www.flipclockfans.com/forum/...h-light-switch

Also i've seen one 24h battery powered copal with quartz movement but they are very rare. I do not think that Citizen or Seiko offered 24h variants since those models have been only sold in japan and some maybe in the usa.