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  • DeN99
    Member
    • Mar 2015
    • 6

    #1

    Hitachi KC-783 Copal II motor, gear replacement

    Howdy,
    I've got a stripped gear on Hitachi flip clock radio (KC-783)
    Motor is Copal II is working fine, however the first distribution gear (1st next to brass motor gear) has multiple stripped teeth.
    I recon best way to go about it is to find a donor and salvage a gear.
    Does anyone know which device would have a similar or identical gear box?
    Thank you
  • Mackey
    Administrator
    • Feb 2014
    • 3609
    • United States [US]

    #2
    Originally posted by DeN99
    Howdy,
    I've got a stripped gear on Hitachi flip clock radio (KC-783)
    Motor is Copal II is working fine, however the first distribution gear (1st next to brass motor gear) has multiple stripped teeth.
    I recon best way to go about it is to find a donor and salvage a gear.
    Does anyone know which device would have a similar or identical gear box?
    Thank you
    Forgive my slowness here but which gear? 1 2 or 3?
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    I'm thinking I saw some gears in a hobby shop in Louisville, KY. Can you get some dimensions or (tedious) I know, count the teeth (that will be more to the point anyway).

    I don't recall having any motor on hand that looks like that.
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    • DeN99
      Member
      • Mar 2015
      • 6

      #3
      Hi ~Mackey,
      thank you for responding
      Sorry, that was a bad shot and lack of details.

      Here is better view.
      I will need to take the box apart to get to the offending piece, I can attempt to count the teeth.

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      • Mackey
        Administrator
        • Feb 2014
        • 3609
        • United States [US]

        #4
        By the way ... never seen one of those until I looked it up. Interesting

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        • DeN99
          Member
          • Mar 2015
          • 6

          #5
          Its a curious piece, not very common since some of those still percolate in peoples garages as radios, plastic gears did not held up as good as the rest of it.

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          • DeN99
            Member
            • Mar 2015
            • 6

            #6
            interesting - adjacent thread about Sanyo RM8400 shows a similarly looking gearbox on a copal motor.
            I wonder if its the same thing...
            Update: nope, not the same

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            • Mackey
              Administrator
              • Feb 2014
              • 3609
              • United States [US]

              #7
              That thing looks like it may be s pretty standard size. Need diameter.
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              • Matthew
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 130

                #8
                Sanyo RM8400 owner here. Attepmts to search eBay and the rest of internets for a replacement gear were unsuccessful. I also tried local clock/watch repair shops an RC model stores, nothing at all, nobody could help with that.

                Solution: I found a guy at an RC forum whom I have successfully contacted and sent him my gearbox with the broken gear. I told him what I needed, I had 2 gears made. Not exactly the same module with the same depth of teeth, and not exactly cheap (clock cost me 300 CZK, gears 500) but when I put the gearbox together it fit okay and my clock has been running for some 4 months now. No trouble so far, keeps perfect time.

                I'm planning to post a full video of the Sanyo RM8400, hopefully it'll be soon enough.

                Matthew
                SAVE THE FLIPCLOCKS!

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                • Mackey
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                  • Feb 2014
                  • 3609
                  • United States [US]

                  #9
                  Looking forward to the video
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                  • Chief13
                    Member
                    • Mar 2015
                    • 20

                    #10
                    I have the same motor with the same problem...only mine is out of a sony. Someone needs to start making these gears!

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